English Wikipedia @ Freddythechick:Articles for deletion/Online recovery

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Online recovery

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This page purports to discuss "online recovery" -- i.e. mental health or addiction recovery programs that operate online, as opposed to traditional in-person methods. However, the examples given are a scattering of actual on-line twelve-step programs, on-line resources discussing addiction or mental health (but not actually offering any recovery program), apps that are associated with recovery programs but which do not, in themselves, constituted a recover program, etc. The author then goes on to make vague and unsubstantiated claims about the validity and/or legal issues surrounding such programs. Based on the author's own remarks on the talk page (here), the page is based on a "new consensus building" -- which seems to indicate that there is nothing in the world that is really an "online recovery program" but that there may be efforts afoot to push for such programs. In short, the article appears to be a coat rack on which to build the legitimacy of the concept of online recovery, when no such legitimacy has yet been demonstrated by established reliable sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

comment - maybe a rename to start with. by looking at the title i assumed that of course online recovery is the happy outcome you hope to get by using the services of an online backup company like Carbonite (online backup). something like web-based addiction-recovery while longer does at least reveal the meaning at a glance without the possibility of being confused with the much better known and heavily advertised rival concept. Cramyourspam (talk) 16:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

comment The concept of "online" recovery may in fact be confusing. The page should be renamed after additional reliable sources have been included. Also, the collection of information about a topic that is new in itself does require 'consensus building' which is the very act of creating this encyclopedia. Materials and reliable sources must be collected from real, definable experts Wikiworld2 (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Delete. None of the sources discusses the concept of what this article calls "online recovery" (I agree with Gene93k that the primary meaning of that term refers to data recovery, not mental health or addiction recovery). The article consists wholly of original research creating a novel synthesis from a few pieces found left and right. --Lambiam 18:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

comment - despite the fixes made to the page, patience has not been expressed in order to assist the further support of this article. New references will be added from an assortment of verifiable sources in addition to those already provided. Wikiworld2 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Keep I seek a moment's grace from this unfair process. Not everyone can work on these projects with the speed of some editors. Please show strength without judgement. With all due respect, the deletion policy has so-far been unfair. References have been added, and fixed, especially concerning the one instance as cited - the app - yet that has been cited for a reason for delete. The page is being cleaned.. Please have patience. I duly hope that since the author is being singled out for a misuse of terms on the talk page, others here should not consider that a clause for deletion. Deleting an entry because of something written on a talk page and than canvassing for support here based upon a misuse of terms is poor policy. Online recovery is a real verifiable concept. By the same token, the original critic of the page does not understand the concept of anonymity as it relates to the topic. Recovery programs are taking place online, the concepts of online sponsorship is evolving almost on a daily basis. Please have patience with the page so it can be improved. There should be a policy on Wikipedia to promote tolerance and respect for others who are working on entries that require unflinching time and effort. Wikiworld2 (talk) 20:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Given the current state of the page, the best option might be to userfy the page and allow Wikiworld2 (talk · contribs) to work on it at his own pace. When he feels it is ready for publication, he can again move it back to main article space for re-evaluation by the community (or -- better -- seek advice from an independent editor to evaluate it while still in his user space). WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Comment Agreed. Will userfy the space to temporarily resolve the matter and seek independent editor to clarify and fine tune article. Wikiworld2 (talk) 21:04, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've moved the page accordingly to User:Wikiworld2/Online recovery. --Lambiam 23:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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