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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — F R ⁺ 06:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Redemption (Fast novel)

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Seems to fail WP:NBOOK. Doesn't have sources, with only a review from a website and an Amazon.com page as external links. Kirbanzo (talk) 14:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 12:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Delete: Fails WP:NB. No signs of notability. Got one page on Amazon and one on goodreads (which is also owned by Amazon). The link to the review is not working in my region or country maybe. Error code 404. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 17:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Keep. At the time of nomination in Special:Diff/799904668/840226519, the article was indeed not unreferenced, and that aside, notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article, and sources are only found when we go looking for them. I had no problems adding citations to six good sources: bylined reviews from Los Angeles Times,^[1] The Christian Science Monitor,^[2] and The Washington Post,^[3] as well as several {{cite book}}s.^[4]^[5]^[6] The article more than meets [[WP:GNG]] now. Sam Sailor 14:09, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

References

^ Harris, Michael (29 June 1999). "New Twist for a Master Storyteller". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 9 May 2018. Retrieved 10 May 2018.
^ Hoyle, John Christian (12 August 1999). "There is a caring heart on Gotham's mean streets". The Christian Science Monitor. Retrieved 10 May 2018. – via HighBeam (subscription required)
^ Greenya, John (8 August 1999). "Thrillers". The Washington Post. Retrieved 10 May 2018. – via HighBeam (subscription required)
^ Gale Research Company (1999). Something about the Author. Gale Research. p. 80. ISBN 978-0-7876-3216-8. Retrieved 10 May 2018.
^ Sorin, G. (2012). Howard Fast: Life and Literature in the Left Lane. The Modern Jewish Experience. Indiana University Press. p. 398. ISBN 978-0-253-00732-2. Retrieved 10 May 2018. Fast's protagonists in Redemption (1999) were drawn directly from his own recent experience. Ike Goldman, a widower and retired university professor, is like Fast a leftist veteran of earlier political wars; and Elizabeth (Liz) Hopper, thirty years Ike's junior, is like Mimi a depressed and abused former wife, who though a deeply religious, conventraised Catholic, contemplates suicide. Liz is talked out of jumping off a bridge by Ike, and both are "redeemed" by their new love. The novel, one ...
^ Watson, T. (2005). Contemporary Authors: New Revision Series. Contemporary Authors New Revision. Cengage Gale. p. 143. ISBN 978-0-7876-7894-4. Retrieved 10 May 2018. Driving through New York City one night, he sees a woman, Elizabeth, about to jump from a bridge. He talks Elizabeth out of her desperate act and, in the weeks that follow, finds himself falling in love with her. The two are planning to wed, when Elizabeth's ex-husband is found dead in suspicious circumstances, making her a suspect. Goldman does all he can to aid in her defense, but as the evidence against her mounts, his own doubts about her innocence increase. "The story moves ...

Keep. Works by bestselling authors such as Howard Fast, whose name alone is sufficient to sell a book, are usually considered notable by their own accord but, thanks to well-researched references provided by Sam Sailor, Redemption's notability is unquestionable. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:30, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Notable per Sam Sailor. James500 (talk) 11:30, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Keep: After seeing this article's current state I changed my vote.
Mr. @Sam Sailor: Why don't you do this awesome job to other articles, too, which are nominated for deletion? Maybe I didn't search properly enough. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 18:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I occasionally overcome my laziness and source an article... Sam Sailor 21:58, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[Harris_1999-1] Harris, Michael (29 June 1999). "New Twist for a Master Storyteller". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 9 May 2018. Retrieved 10 May 2018.

[Hoyle_1999-2] Hoyle, John Christian (12 August 1999). "There is a caring heart on Gotham's mean streets". The Christian Science Monitor. Retrieved 10 May 2018. – via HighBeam (subscription required)

[Greenya_1999-3] Greenya, John (8 August 1999). "Thrillers". The Washington Post. Retrieved 10 May 2018. – via HighBeam (subscription required)

[Gale_Research_Company-4] Gale Research Company (1999). Something about the Author. Gale Research. p. 80. ISBN 978-0-7876-3216-8. Retrieved 10 May 2018.

[Sorin_2012_p._398-5] Sorin, G. (2012). Howard Fast: Life and Literature in the Left Lane. The Modern Jewish Experience. Indiana University Press. p. 398. ISBN 978-0-253-00732-2. Retrieved 10 May 2018. Fast's protagonists in Redemption (1999) were drawn directly from his own recent experience. Ike Goldman, a widower and retired university professor, is like Fast a leftist veteran of earlier political wars; and Elizabeth (Liz) Hopper, thirty years Ike's junior, is like Mimi a depressed and abused former wife, who though a deeply religious, conventraised Catholic, contemplates suicide. Liz is talked out of jumping off a bridge by Ike, and both are "redeemed" by their new love. The novel, one ...

[Watson_2005-6] Watson, T. (2005). Contemporary Authors: New Revision Series. Contemporary Authors New Revision. Cengage Gale. p. 143. ISBN 978-0-7876-7894-4. Retrieved 10 May 2018. Driving through New York City one night, he sees a woman, Elizabeth, about to jump from a bridge. He talks Elizabeth out of her desperate act and, in the weeks that follow, finds himself falling in love with her. The two are planning to wed, when Elizabeth's ex-husband is found dead in suspicious circumstances, making her a suspect. Goldman does all he can to aid in her defense, but as the evidence against her mounts, his own doubts about her innocence increase. "The story moves ...

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