English Wikipedia @ Freddythechick:Articles for deletion/Sergio Michel

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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 14:58, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Sergio Michel

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Subject of the article continues to edit the page himself, adding details that aren't supported by the pages he is using as references. Page has been deleted multiple times already. original page creator has already been blocked from editing the page due to circumventing the original block of his other accounts. The wikipedia account belonging to Sergio Michel has already been blocked for tampering

Claims of being a prominent entertainer/Creative professional:

He has cited youtube videos to prove that he had a role in a TV show. However clips from the show illustrate that this was a minor and brief non-speaking role. I don't believe that a minor nonspeaking role in a TV show assert significance. I'd imagine that would open the flood gates for all actors who attain a small bit role in a film or tv show to publish a Wikipedia page about themselves based on an insignificant role. This does not comply with notability guidelines that demand that the subject have had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.

His references claiming to be a significant musical artist have been linking to a page which do not adhere to guidelines that assert that the subject have recordings that are not self published. The subject of the article's published works are not independent from himself.

His second assertion of being a well known and popular host for a Celebrity Boxing match isn't demonstrated by his cited articles. At best, his cited article indicates that he was hired to announce a single match that ended up never materializing (per his own cited reference). There is nothing in his referenced URL that substantiates that he was hired as a host on an ongoing basis.

Author of the article continues to revert my changes when I edit the article to reflect that fact. Wikibronx (talk) 02:03, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Just to add to my assessment above, User:IAmVince continues to use "Sergio's Blog" as a reference of tv acting work. The imdb page for this lists this as a "9 episode TV series" that he appeared in. However this is not a TV series, rather it is his YouTube channel called Sergio's blog which contains precisely 9 videos. This is not a TV series, the imdb page is not a reliable source.. Wikibronx (talk) 21:54, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Delete Fortunately, Wiki allows for improvement, because the article is really poorly presented. However, let's look at the links again to reinforce the well written commentary above:

References 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 & 12 are YouTube/Telemundo (The Telemundo aspect is protrayed from YouTube) and not a reliable source for references. Reference 1 links to a .com site that links to Facebook, Twitter, etc and then references his own .com site (Sergio.Michel.com), has issue with WP:COI, and is not a reliable reference. Reference 3 is a commercial site and has problems with WP:COI as this is an advertising source and not a reliable reference. Reference 4 doesn't demonstrate much except his blog spot, is also a WP:COI concern, and isn't a reliable source. Reference 8 is about something that never happened, and can't be considered a reference as such. Reference 11 is simply a continuation of the YouTube line and is not a reliable reference. After addressing all that, there is nothing left to retain. Barada wha?

03:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Delete None of the references in the article seem to support inclusion under WP:GNG or WP:ENT at this point. User:Barada's analysis is spot on. Some research indicates this bio might be a case of WP:TOOSOON but as of right now I don't think he's there yet. The plethora of non-reliable sources and the usual behavioral pattern of trying to claw up past the notability threshold is usually a good indicator that the subject isn't there yet. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Delete (disclosure: I've been involved in an administrative capacity with the article's creator and with the associated sockpuppet investigation). Whilst I've declined a CSD on an earlier version this article (under A7), I'm now fairly convinced that it should be removed: as Barada has succinctly established, there simply aren't sufficient reliable independent sources to support it. I've had a nose around for more, on the offchance that something more substantial was out there, but nothing's turned up. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT, needs to go. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Delete - Sources are inadequate for establishing notability. Fails WP:ENT. - Mr X 03:30, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Delete for now... per so very much wrong with an article created and expanded by inexperienced contributors it would be a mercy killing to WP:NUKEANDPAVE. Send them all to the "Primer for newcomers" to get a little CLUE. His works as an actor are minimal and fail WP:ENT. As writer/creator/producer'host of the non-notable series Sergio's Blog,[1] while an interesting method of self-promotion, has not itself received recognition and thus fails WP:CREATIVE. As other's have noted, there are very few reliable sources used to source this, but one article in the Hudson Reporter is decent enough and specifically deals with the subject directly and in detail.[2] SFL Music Magazine (page 29) did review his work Sorrowful Psalms: Uplifting 'Depressing' Music. If/when he gets more actual coverage in reliable sources to meet WP:GNG, or his works get the coverage to meet WP:MUSICBIO, we might consider a recreation of a properly formatted and properly sourced article. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:53, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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