English Wikipedia @ Freddythechick:Articles for deletion/Bae Jae-Min

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 21:47, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Bae Jae-Min

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No notability, or place in an encyclopedia. Jamesx12345 (talk) 23:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Comment about the deletion procedure This was nominated for deletion on 15 March 2013, but the nominator never added the nomination to the daily log. I have now added it to today's log instead since I think that people might risk missing the nomination if added to the log page for 15 March instead. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:04, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Comment about the nomination There was an article at Korean Wikipedia, ko:배재민, which was deleted for some reason. The deletion summary contains the word Tekken (철권), so the article on Korean Wikipedia was presumably about the same person. He seems to have received some media coverage, for example [1], but I'm not sure if it is enough. I'm not an expert at BLP policy. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 15:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:40, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 07:25, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone 03:09, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment ~~Delete~~ This article is poorly written and not notable. Jamesx12345 (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2013‎ (UTC)

You nominated the article so it is assumed you favour deletion - no need to !vote twice. Stalwart111 21:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment One problem is that most information presumably only is available in Korean, so it isn't trivial for editors of English Wikipedia to access the information or determine whether a source is reliable or independent or whether it indicates notability. I suspect that this person isn't notable (that's probably why he had his article deleted from Korean Wikipedia), but it's not really easy to research due to the language barrier. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Trusty google translate says "document was deleted (mischief or graffiti, mistake, or a document created as an exercise: content: 'Tekken pro-gamer in 2011 WCG Grand Final Tekken Tequendama crash Six gold medalist and two-times winner (editors only [[Special: Contributions / Ksrd)" Jamesx12345 (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment - okay, so for a start, the article is horribly written with "thoughts" from the author about not being able to find things and some awful translation (or just plain awful prose if it wasn't translated). That's not a reason for deletion, per se, but the article is going to need some WP:TNT if it survives. Sources are not required to be in English but those that are suggest there's not much international coverage that would suggest the subject has notability outside a small group of people in a niche community associated with a single game (from the perspective of WP:GNG). Gamers can be notable, of course, but I'm not certain this one is. This article from the Washington Times suggests he won a gold medal "at the Olympics of the video game world". If he had actually won a gold medal at the Olympics, of course, he would pass per WP:NOLYMPICS. But is the World Cyber Games the "highest level" of his "sport"? There's also random bits and pieces like this, but yes, the rest would seem to be in Korean. If winning a gold medal in that competition is sufficient then he obviously passes - he won and it can be verified. If not, I think a WP:GNG is a ways off. Stalwart111 22:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Delete. Not independently notable, doesn't pass GNG, even including Korean sources. Winning WCG hasn't made any others WP:BIO notable enough for inclusion in an encyclopedia either. WCG's comparison to the Olympics is a ways off, though I'm sure they like to market themselves that way. czar · · 17:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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