English Wikipedia @ Freddythechick:Articles for deletion/Computer Based Mathematics Education

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The result was Keep and cleanup. Foxy Loxy ^Pounce! 01:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Computer-based mathematics education

This is not an article, it is an essay. It would take an extreme amount of effort to convert it into a proper article, an effort which will be hampered by the lack of an actual definition of the term (rather, this article simply goes into length about how it is the intersection of computers, math and education, without discussion of its implementation or use). Additionally, though the article is two years old, a Google search suggests the term itself may be a neologism.

The article also contains a good deal of original research, as none of the references actually pertain to CBME itself, and I was unable to find any references which substantiated the term beyond a simple buzz-word for "using computers to teach math". nneonneo ^talk 19:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm....I'm going to tag this for rescue. I might get to it later tonight. Computer based mathematics education isn't just a buzzword, even though you might not know it from this article. Math is an interesting (to educators and scholars of education) subject because it is practice based but new technology obviates practice at low levels. Some colleges ban calculators entirely from math classes. Some use computers to determine where skill deficiencies lie in students and help to correct them. IMO, this article needs a strip down, rename and restructuring. The concept is important and is VERY likely to be covered in dozens, if not hundreds of books and scholarly works. I don't think this is a "bad" nom, per se, as this article doesn't really help the reader down that path. I'm neutral for now and I'll return later. Protonk (talk) 20:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Weak Keep and expand and improve. I'd have to agree that just because the article is poorly written doesn't mean it should be gotten rid of, as this type of education is common, at least where I went to school. --Banime (talk) 23:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Weak keep, cut back to basics, and try again. The writing is that of an essay or chapter in a textbook or teacher's guide. The topic deserves better. DGG (talk) 02:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Comment In Some Fields, The Existence of Lower [hyphen omitted] Case Initial Letters Is Not Yet Known, And Neither Are Hyphens (E.G. Business Administration, Computer Science, And Possibly Education). In The Interest Of Englightening Dark Corners Of The World, I Have Moved This Article From "Computer Based Mathematics Education" To "computer-based mathematics education". Michael Hardy (talk) 15:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Keep But please clean-up - don't we have a handy essay about not posting your dissertation? -- Banjeboi 17:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and nuked the majority of the article, mostly stuff that is covered in much better detail on Mathematics, Education, Computer and Mathematics education, and rewritten a good chunk of the remainder. The term needs a clearer definition, and I cannot find much beyond what I have just added. Hopefully this improves the article. nneonneo ^talk 00:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.