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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is "not yet". This closure explicitly does not prevent recreation of the article if and when the subject becomes properly notable, and a request can be lodged at WP:REFUND to recover the content at such a stage. Stifle (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Youtube Comedy Hunt India

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Delete, as of now a non notable competition. Originally nominated for csd. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

The "coverage" provided is plugs for entrants, it fails Wikipedia:Notability (events). It does not provide more then routine coverage, there is no duration of coverage and no depth of coverage. It does not yet have a significant impact. Still waiting for User:Northamerica1000 to address these concerns but as it wasn't at the top they decided to ignore them. It's now at the top and I've filed the form in triplicate carbon copy. WP:WEBCRIT also does not allow "This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations[4] except for media re-prints of press releases and advertising for the content or site[5] or trivial coverage, such as: a brief summary of the nature of the content " Coverage is advertising for entrants and amounts to trivial coverage. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
  • "Finding the next AIB". India Today. July 11, 2015. Retrieved 19 July 2015.
  • "Hunt for hilarity". Bangalore Mirror.
  • "What happens when AIB, Kanan Gill, Jose and a host of comedians come together? Madness!". Firstpost. 7 July 2015.
  • "YouTube Comedy Hunt Looks For India's Next Big YouTube Star". Maharashtra Times. July 10, 2015. (in Indonesian)
  • "YouTube India launches The Comedy Hunt". afaqs!.
  • "YouTube Comedy Hunt can make you big YouTube star". India.com. (in Indonesian)
– North America1000 14:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
It should in no way have an article. That doesn't cover depth of coverage and it's a competition that hasn't happened yet. At most a blurb on their page would be appropriate. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
I addended my !vote with another source. North America1000 14:50, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
That's still trivial coverage. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Yet another source added to my !vote above. North America1000 14:55, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
And most of them are advertising for entrants. Real high quality stuff there. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
+1 more added. The sources are news articles, and the topic meets WP:WEBCRIT. North America1000 14:59, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
I missed the part where advertising for entrants or events was considered a reliable source? I can understand why you are ignoring my concerns though, you can't really contest them. Way to promote shitty articles. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
News articles ≠ advertising by default. See WP:RS for Wikipedia's guideline about reliable sources. North America1000 15:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
That does not count as significant coverage, the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (events) clearly show this does not meet the guidelines. Lasting effect (unknown brand new), Duration of coverage (none it's brand new), Depth of coverage (other then advertising for entrants none). What you are showing is routine coverage nothing more, read the inclusion criteria, it may help if you brush up on what the policies actually say. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps you should have considered including this rationale in the deletion nomination atop. The topic, nevertheless, meets WP:WEBCRIT. I have ignored the aspect of your rude tone in your above comments (diff). See below for more sources. North America1000 15:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
I have mentioned it now, and no it still doesn't pass the guidelines. There still needs to be depth of coverage not routine coverage. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Source synopsis below.
–North America1000 15:34, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Advertising synopsis below.
  • [[1]]- "A rib-tickling promo for the hunt has been released on AIB's official YouTube channel featuring some of the popular YouTubers taking pot shots at each other, while brainstorming to find the next big star on YouTube who will create refreshing and original content.nt to watch a funny 6 minute video, here's the link: Any individual or team above 18 years of age can participate in the contest by setting up a YouTube channel and uploading a three-minute-long entry (video). Participants with pre-existing YouTube channels are allowed to submit a video for the Comedy Hunt, as long as their YouTube channel does not have more than 5000 subscribers, as on June 1, 2015. In such cases, videos created and uploaded before June 1, 2015 are not eligible for submission. Entry videos can be in any language. However, subtitles must be added to videos that are in languages other than English or Hindi. The last date for uploading entries is July 26, 2015."
  • [[2]] "To participate in the competition you have to do only that YouTube Talent Hunt, which you want to create a video that will be coming to the art. And there is a video on YouTube to share. 26 July prevail asuna your video if you would like a chance to become unmentionable yutyubastara. Those who want to be involved in the event is to share the video link on this www.youtube.com/thecomedyhunt."
  • [[3]]"This is in recognition of the opportunities provided by the yutyubanam abandoned. Competition in the video 's www.youtube.com/thecomedyhunt"
  • [[4]] "So if you think you're the next comedy star of India or if you just want to watch a funny 6 minute video, here's the link:"
  • [[5]] "YouTube creators have to create the humorous content on their channel and then send the entries (last date is July 26) to www.youtube.com/thecomedyhunt. The creators will then be shortlisted by comic stars such as All India Bakchod, Kanan Gill, Jose, SnG Comedy, East India Comedy, Abish Mathew, Aditi Mittal and Shudh Desi Endings. The stars will then groom the top contestants and put them through seven weeks of challenge rounds after which the top finalists will go on stage and display their videos live in front of an audience." Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep. Clearly notable and very popular in India. Creating a page about some contest which hasn't happened yet doesn't mean advertising. If gone by that criteria 2020 Summer Olympics is also advertising. Mr RD (talk) 15:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Actually there is a clear difference, read the guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (events). It has a significant impact on the world, it has significant coverage and it has duration of coverage. This article does not. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep: It is notable and popular in India. User:Hell in a Bucket saying that event needs "significant impact on the world". I mean what is the definition of the "world" here? Even world level events of many sports like archery gone unnoticed in hosting country itself. We can't expect that everything should be published in The New York Times and BBC. This event is popular and national level India Today published news about it [6]], also national level Marathi language daily Maharashtra Times also published news about it [7]. I think this is surely notable. --Human3015 knock knock • 16:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
No that was the reference I was using for the olympics and denoting it's impact. It was also an invalid argument because it is an established competition that we "know" will be here and we "know" is notable by default. This is a brand new competition. It should start on youtubes page, then as it grows then it should have it's own article. I'm not at all saying that this may not have significance after the event and if there is the coverage depth we need to make a stand alone. Also please explain how it id popular in India when the show has not even aired yet? The sources you show above are also shown above by myself as routine coverage advertising for participants. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Hell in a Bucket, I was not talking about olympics, I was talking about individual events of some sports, for example Archery World Cup. I wonder how many people knows about such world cups of many sports even if their homeland is host nation. And how much coverage does mainstream news gives to such events? And I'm saying "this is popular in India" because people involved in it are famous among youth and whatever initiative they starts it becomes famous in youth. As you yourself saying that all these news are "adverts", then purpose of "adverts" is to make particular thing "popular" or "sensational", so thats why its popular in India. (Note: I'm not defaming great art of Archery here, its just for example, I do follow Archery events) --Human3015 knock knock • 19:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Well once it goes beyond advertising and it truly has significance it will be a different story. It does not yet. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 19:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
You are also right in some extent, but it is very hard to decide stage of this event, we can't decide if this is just an "advert" or "sensible news". It can be individual perception. You nominated it for deletion, so sometimes nominator takes it personally and don't take sigh of relief till article gets deleted. I am not saying you are completely wrong, your arguments is also valid. We should wait for some more comments, or can I post it on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics for requesting more comments? --Human3015 knock knock • 19:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
User:Human3015 usually that sort of thing is frowned on as canvassing but in this case it may help to have additional languages competence if there are other sources out there. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete without prejudice I'm not buying into the keep arguments. This is something that never been attempted, hasn't produced any results, makes no credible claim of significance, violates WP:CRYSTAL, because the material as added TOOSOON. That having been said, when the results are in, I think that there could well be enough notable information concerning the contest to make a decent article. I have no prejudice against having the material here, but I think hell in a bucket is right: build in after all is said and done. TomStar81 (Talk) 16:28, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete - Some fine sources found by Northamerica1000 (I don't agree they should be discounted), but they're all from the same week. Notability requires lasting significance / sustained coverage. Sometimes there's such a huge amount of coverage we can come to the conclusion at AfD that sustained coverage is extremely likely, but I don't think that's the case here. WP:TOOSOON. I would suggest Userfying to preserve the work done and sources found so far, since it may be notable soon, but as the biggest advocate for keeping here, NA1K, is an admin and would have access to the article regardless, that's probably moot. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - per WP:CRYSTAL. The subject lacks notability due to sustained coverage with actual depth. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not seeing enough depth of coverage here. — Cirt (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:IAR: While this currently does not meet WP:NEVENT, we should still not delete it as it is a considerable contest. It would be likely to be useful to people that are interested in the contest; there are likely many per the coverage. WP:NEVENT's strict requirements should only apply if it prevents Wikipedia from being a news source; contests are within the scope of an encyclopedia. We are not a paper encyclopedia, so I don't see how we lack the capacity to cover confirmed, future events. Esquivalience t 10:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete - This is a new event, and other than 1 week's coverage, there is not enough evidence to show that this will be a significant, long-term event with lasting significance/sustained coverage; it seems "local news" (albeit India is a large locality!) and it may well remain that way. If it meets the criteria for inclusion in the future, then the article can be recreated. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 11:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment – For what it's worth, the event has continued to receive some ongoing news coverage, such as this short article below.
– North America1000 12:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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