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MusikBot 11

Operator: MusikAnimal (talk · contribs · SUL · edit count · logs · page moves · block log · rights log · ANI search)

Time filed: 18:47, Friday, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Automatic, Supervised, or Manual:

Programming language(s): Ruby

Source code available: GitHub

Function overview: Replaces certain categories on BLPs to the BLP-specific counterpart.

Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate): Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 28, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot. This is an extension to a previously approved Yobot task

Edit period(s): Daily

Estimated number of pages affected: Around ~40 on the first run, the maybe 2-3 a day by my estimate, or less than 200 a month according to Magioladitis.

Exclusion compliant (Yes/No): Yes

Already has a bot flag (Yes/No): Yes

Function details: For pages that are in Category:Living people, the bot will replace:

Any duplicates are removed. The bot will also preserve any sort keys used, for instance changing [[Category:Year of birth missing|Dylan, Bob]] → [[:Category:Year of birth missing (living people)|Dylan, Bob]]. If there are duplicate categories with different sort keys, the bot will ignore the page altogether, since there's really no way to infer which sort key is the correct one.

See this example, assuming "Foo category" and "Bar category" are the ones that need to be converted. This example also illustrates how capitalize, white spacing, newlines, etc., are handled.

Discussion

  • See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 28 for why I'm taking this up. Basically it was easier and more efficient (in my opinion) to query the replicas to find these categories that need updating, as opposed to intersecting all pages in each category, which is close to a million pages. I don't know exactly how AWB would have done this behind the scenes, but a single query I tried ran pretty fast. Magioladitis suggested I take it on, so here I am. AWB is not being used so there are no general fixes — MusikAnimal talk 18:47, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Support The list generation in AWB is slower than this. Moreover, I would like more bots to do the things I do so I have more time to try new things. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:18, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Approved for trial (25 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. Please post trial results below when done. — xaosflux Talk 19:22, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


Trial complete. [1]. Everything worked as planned, however there were two articles that had both Category:Date of birth missing (living people) and Category:Year of birth missing (living people), which are not meant to be used together. We could have the bot remove one of them but in my opinion we should leave that to the humans, especially since "Date of birth" shouldn't be used at all in some cases if the year of birth is known (see notice at the top of Category:Date of birth missing (living people)) — MusikAnimal talk 00:33, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Reviewed all edits.

  • [2][3] - bot duplicated a category.

Otherwise, looks fine. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Two is better than one, right? :) This is an easy fix. Open to another trial if we want — MusikAnimal talk 19:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Please add to the function details that two categories are preferred how the bot handles this -- I presume remove the parent category -- or does it skip the change? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
@Hellknowz: Can do, but also I just thought of another potential problem. What if they use sort keys on one category and not on the duplicate? For BLPs they should be using {{DEFAULTSORT}}, but it's possible you'll see things like [[Category:Year of birth missing|Dylan, Bob]] and also [[Category:Year of birth missing (living people)]] on the same page. I can't envision where'd you want a (living people) category to be sorted differently than what's specified with DEFAULTSORT. What do you think? — MusikAnimal talk 19:35, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
That's a good point. You should preserve the sort key if present. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:26, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
@Hellknowz: Function details updated, see also the example diff — MusikAnimal talk 05:29, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Approved for extended trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. If there even are that many pages left. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

@Hellknowz: Only 22 pages left [4]. Pretty uneventful, none contained duplicates or sort keys. We can wait until we do a full 50, or at least run into some duplicates/sort keys, up to you. If not hopefully the sandbox example is enough to show it will handle those edge cases properly — MusikAnimal talk 19:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I think there's no need. It's an edge case and the sandbox edit looks good. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

 Approved. Looks good. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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