English Wikipedia @ Freddythechick:Copyright problems/2012 April 16
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- Sigma Omicron Pi (history · last edit) from http://www.jhu.edu/sopi/history.html. Copy paste. DpmukBOT (talk) 06:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- There's a possibility this is a reverse copy. While the material clearly matches the Material was added to the Wikipedia page in 2007. The http://www.jhu.edu/sopi/index.html site has a copyright date of 2010, which doesn't prove it isn't older, but I can't find a version in the Internet Archive before 2010.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 00:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a backwards copy. :/ (Clarifying: I don't disagree that that page came after, but I am concerned that we did not originate that text.) I can't find any evidence of natural evolution. Changes here are only on Wikipedia - not on the official sites (cf. http://national.sigmaomicronpi.com/). - The only signs of evolution I can find was swiftly changed - I think probably to match up to the "master" source language. :/ (See where this was changed - not reverted, but re-edited: [2]; [3]. Put it back almost exactly where it was, save a space. The editor changed it again here, and it remained as it was for quite some time before another IP came in to "fix" it again: [4]. Unfortunately, wayback is not cooperative in viewing the master sources. I found this one, but it won't let me into the "history" tab. I'm getting that from a lot of these websites (like here; here. Total frustration). I really think that under the exhortation of WP:C to "If in doubt, write the content yourself" we should blank the material pending clarification and replace it with an originally written history. I'd be happy to write the history from scratch in that understanding, but do not wish to override you. Maybe we should get a third opinion from somebody else who works copyright here? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:54, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- I think I've dug out the history "tab" for the first one you mention. I believe the problem is something to do with that menu actually being a Flash app. Anyway the flash app is still on the web here despite it no longer being on the actual website. Unfortunately it would appear to point to the same web address as the history link on the current tab([5]) and the earliest version of that is 2009. Dpmuk (talk) 01:34, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm happy with the MRG approach. What I found wasn't definition, and I agree with the safe approach.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:38, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, and I'd agree that from what you found it would appear very likely that their content pre-dates ours by some way so if you're willing to re-write that seems the safest approach. Dpmuk (talk) 16:56, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks much, guys. On my list for the weekend. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Article cleaned by investigator or others. No remaining infringement. And done. Thanks much for the discussion. :) I haven't rev deleted because it isn't blatant, until and unless we find a source. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
End. MER-C 08:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)