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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: redirect to Template:When. Compromise between keeping but marked historical and deleting entirely. Since {{when}} basically superseded this system, people looking for it will be directed to the new system. And anyone looking for the history for some reason can find it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Month Day

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Seems to be an obsolete "holding" page; Month Day no longer redirects there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:16, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete nothing important links to the page and it now appears to serve no purpose. Legacypac (talk) 17:03, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete or WTF? or send to write-only memory. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete. Just a very old error explanation message about date formatting. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Archiving things like this is a very sensible default procedure. There is little benefit or harm in archiving this or not. There is harm in a culture of willy nilly deletion nominations. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:46, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep but mark as {{historical}}. I'm not eager to delete a page once characterized as "key page, should be moved to wikipedia namespace [edit=sysop; move=sysop]" (here) unless someone familiar with the page endorses it. What it seemingly is (or was) may be greater than has been realized here.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete The page was deemed 'key' in 2007 - over ten years ago (raise your hand if that makes you feel old) - its purpose seems to have been to track cases where a month and day haven't been filled in for source access dates (see ref #5 on The Complete Hank Williams). It's no longer used for this purpose (a handful of places link to Month Day in mainspace, such as my example here, something I'll fix now) so it's safe to blow this relic away. Richard0612 16:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag as historical. Was once useful. Graham87 05:51, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Jo-Jo Eumerus, Robert McClenon, SmokeyJoe, Richard0612, and Graham87: I think a good compromise would be to preserve the history of this page by making it a redirect to {{when}}, a template which has spiritually (if not actually) superseded the Month Day method. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 18:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
    • I'm not entirely sure what history would be worth preserving here, but equally there's no real reason to object to redirecting it to {{when}}, so I'd be content with that. Richard0612 20:23, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Fine with me. Graham87 01:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep and mark historical, with an explanatory note that the function this page previously served is now performed by {{when}}. That way, if someone is investigating something from 12 years ago that refers to this process, they will be able to read what it was. Yes, it does happen. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:05, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Actually, delete. I was thinking this was a page like WP:RREV which was part of some old process that we no longer use, and which would be beneficial to preserve as I stated above. It doesn't appear to be that at all, it was a page that seems to have been created to catch editors making links to Month Day, to show a maintenance message. Perhaps there was a tool that created that sort of link 10 years ago? I don't know, and this page doesn't help me find out. It was not a holding page, it did not transclude a "what links here" or any other kind of content, it was just a static maintenance message. The page itself contains no useful history or explanation of what it is or what it was. As of this edit there are three extant links to Month Day in article space, all of them having existed since 2007 or so without being fixed. I am about to correct all of them. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:36, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
@Ivanvector: What are those three pages, if you don't mind my asking? I'm curious myself, might do some digging in page histories. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 15:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
@Compassionate727: the pages are (were) Question the Answer, The Complete Hank Williams, and Anthology (The Supremes album). You can see instances in other namespaces at Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Month Day. All instances seem to be bots, or editors placing the link as a temporary edit and then never coming back to it, or references to this discussion. Also it probably goes without saying, but check the revisions before my edits. (Repinging with added comment) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:00, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Also pinging Moonriddengirl - see my comments under this bullet point. Two of the three instances I corrected were your edits, so I'm just wondering if maybe you might have better insight to what was going on here and if there's some other reason none of us are thinking of why we might want to preserve this page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep and mark as historical per Ivanvector. People do indeed do things like that; I know because I'm one of them. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 14:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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